Posts by free @ last

Yes. You should be more concerned about your diastolic blood pressure (the bottom number) which represents your bp while your heart is in its relaxed phase of it beat.

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Anyone with blood pressure problems?

by jam in

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i stop taking my blood pressure meds.

the other day.

while at the dentist they took my blood pressure, 177 over 101.. i,am taking my pressure pills again.

free @ last

Yes. You should be more concerned about your diastolic blood pressure (the bottom number) which represents your bp while your heart is in its relaxed phase of it beat.

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Is it just me or is JWN going through a nice phase at the moment?

by nicolaou in

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perhaps i've just been logging on at the right time but i've seen no insane eschatology or prophecy from our resident messiah/prophets and of course, rick isn't spamming the board and everything just seems .

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well, nice.. i like it.. .

free @ last

Thank you nicolaou for expressing my sentiments exactly. I too am mourning the loss of freedom of speech on the forum. Two of the most intelligent and thought provoking posters are now gone. (Thank god their old post don't disappear when they go. Loads of great stuff to go back and read from both.)

The only upside I see to this loss is that it may help me to get over my JWN addiction.... Being an ex-JW has become more tiresome to me than being a JW ever was. Some of that has to do with exposure to the incessant rambling of 'activist apostates'. Sometimes they can simply be laughed at but others who take themselves (or their mission) way too seriously are not so funny and are actually quite disturbing.

Activism is not what it's about for me.

Free

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What came first? Atheism or the "apostasy" in JW terms?

by Silent_Scream in

for those who are atheists: did you become an atheist while being a jw, then left, or did you not view them as the true religion and left, but still believed in god/bible, but later turned to atheism?.

free @ last

JWFacts, I think if you were vocal about being an atheist that would get you in hot water as well. It's the vocal part that bothers them.

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What came first? Atheism or the "apostasy" in JW terms?

by Silent_Scream in

for those who are atheists: did you become an atheist while being a jw, then left, or did you not view them as the true religion and left, but still believed in god/bible, but later turned to atheism?.

free @ last

I was an agnostic before coming out of the kingdom hall but arrived at humanism shortly afterwards.

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Patterson on the line: Watchtower claims that paying cash bond would cause immediate irreparable harm and hardship

by cedars in

a new article for those who are interested.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/patterson-on-the-line-watchtower-claims-that-paying-cash-bond-would-cause-immediate-irreparable-harm-and-hardship.

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cedars.

free @ last

Take responsibility for your own mental and emotional health. No one is pushing you to a nervous breakdown but yourself. Another hiatus from JWN might just do you some good.

Personally I think the mods do enough around here. Each has the responsibility to take care of themselves and to 'self-moderate' no need for mods to police the site on your behalf 24/7.

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Patterson on the line: Watchtower claims that paying cash bond would cause immediate irreparable harm and hardship

by cedars in

a new article for those who are interested.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/patterson-on-the-line-watchtower-claims-that-paying-cash-bond-would-cause-immediate-irreparable-harm-and-hardship.

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cedars.

free @ last

This exchange With KS goes back a few pages so I'll repost before clarifying...

Free at last said:

Cedars has already made it clear that he does not appreciate your criticism KS. Why not just ignore his posts and avoid clicking on his links if you don't like sensationalism. Head to JWFacts if you're looking for something more factual.

Uh, because JWN is a discussion forum?

You, I, Cedars, or anyone else is free to read or ignore ANY post, just as they wish. My comment wasn't directed at Cedars, but to the other readers of this topic who have (and will) engage in this topic on JWN, just like for any other thread.

(and it wasn't even 'criticism', unless you think considering consequences is somehow critical? Funny how you didn't jump on Scott77 for that, as if there's a "don't DARE say anything that might displease Cedars on ANYTHING!" policy on JWN? )

It's unfortunate that thread titles cannot be changed; this one could definitely be reworded to better reflect the actual state of the Conti case right now. Bugger.

No need to make excuses for him: Cedars made it perfectly clear he's not interested in changing the erroneous claim (as seen in the title or as found on his site).

When you analyze the merits of someone else's arguments or writing you are making a critical analysis of it. Generally offering critisism is a good thing. In this case though it's clearly wasted; he is no longer willing to hear it from you. He obviously feels under attack. I had hoped you would have dropped it just for the sake of avoiding giving him more space to display what seems to me like paranoia. I personally do not like what I see as sensationalism in his posts either so I don't usually click on them. The title of this one was so over the top though I just had to peek. Glad I did now because I see some other posters have brought some balance to the topic. The unfortunate title still stands so readers who don't have the patience to wade through the pages of posts may still go away thinking that "Patterson is on the line" or worse just have the proof they might be looking for that apostates are so desperate they will spin any obscure detail to try to make the society look bad. Ah well...

Good to have you posting here. You bring some balance to the board and a whole lotta common sense.

I think anyone trying to make a full-time job of 'bringing down the society' is setting themselves up for disappointment in the long run. But hey they're more than welcome to try.

Free

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Patterson on the line: Watchtower claims that paying cash bond would cause immediate irreparable harm and hardship

by cedars in

a new article for those who are interested.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/patterson-on-the-line-watchtower-claims-that-paying-cash-bond-would-cause-immediate-irreparable-harm-and-hardship.

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cedars.

free @ last

Cedars has already made it clear that he does not appreciate your criticism KS. Why not just ignore his posts and avoid clicking on his links if you don't like sensationalism. Head to JWFacts if you're looking for something more factual. It's unfortunate that thread titles cannot be changed; this one could definitely be reworded to better reflect the actual state of the Conti case right now. Bugger.

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New 16 page WT & AWAKE available on jw.org

by St George of England in

needless to say it's the same old rubbish.

the wt has the usual 'doom & gloom front cover, end of the world, fireball, people running in panic.... george.

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free @ last

Thanks for the stats processor. What sort of program generates these numbers? Could you possibly do the same for the Watchtower. I think this sort of thing merits it's own thread.

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